Advice about Teens Dating | Berkeley Parents Network
It's important to have a list of dating rules that make good sense and don't impose I escaped it for 17 years of parenthood, but the odds were always stacked against me. What's taking place is a good old fashioned courting process. Talk to her about the consequences of breaking rules instead of just Your year-old daughter probably thinks a lot about dating and sex. When it comes to dating, establishing safe rules early on can help prevent a host first sexual encounter is likely to be with girls who are less than a year older.
A quick poll of my friends says otherwise. This made me wonder, does the creepiness rule actually reflect what is socially acceptable when it comes to age differences in dating? In other words, does the creepiness rule actually reflect what society finds…creepy? The researchers approached random people in public and asked them to imagine themselves in a romantic relationship with an attractive person of the opposite sex.
The researchers then presented different types of relationships- sexual fantasies, casual affairs, long-term relationships, marriage — and asked the participants what the minimum and maximum age of their partner is for each scenario.
Women want men around their own age regardless of the type of relationship. Men want much younger women for less committed, more private relationships e. For those types of relationships, men looked for women younger than the lower limits of the creepiness rule. For more committed and public relationships, men looked for women closer to their own age.
Men and women have no interest in dating as old as the creepiness rule allows. So I decided to find the answers myself.
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I created a survey. Although I could have hit the streets of New York and surveyed people in-person Buunk style, I decided to mTurk my survey. I try to avoid as much social interaction in my daily life as possible. This can vary from transcribing a movie, to identifying an item on a receipt, to taking a survey about hypothetical romantic relationships.Do age of consent laws work?
Within a few days I got responses: As John and Lauren got older, however, the creepiness rule differed from how people actually responded. Yet according to the survey, 37 was well outside the age range of what is socially acceptable. That you are on her side and supporting her. That way she might talk to you about any things she doesn't know how to handle. I also tell her if he wants to ''go farther'' than she does, she absolutely has the right to say ''no''.
This totally embarasses her and she doesn't want to talk about it, but I think she's listening. I give my daughter possible things to say to boys in different situations because sometimes we just can't think of the right words at the right time! I am trying to teach her to stick up for herself, to not deny her inner feelings about someone, to use good judgement, and to be tactful also.
It's a work in-progress. Kids can get together in a group in homes where parents cruise through at times From experience, I know some parents at home may mean zero supervision. Our daughter is 16 and figured out early that a lot of so-called dating is really an excuse for sexual experimentation.
Some kids pretend they are drunk, and hence not responsible for their sexual behavior. When my daughter asked me when I thought a girl was ready to have sex, I replied ''when she's ready to handle a baby.
A lot of oral sex goes on in dating, with definite health risks, loss of reputation, etc. I'm generally very liberal but not when it comes to early dating. Our daughter has a nice social life and is not suffering by not dating solo. Drugs also come into so- called dating. If our kids hang with a crowd that don't date, it's easier.
Past efforts to monitor a dating situation have failed, either because of being lied to or because of being let down by a past boyfriend's dad who promised to supervise if the two spent time at his house when he WAS there and did not. My daughter is beginning a new relationship. Knowing I cannot control what she does, I want to set age- appropriate parameters and attempt to hold her to them.
If they are too tight it will backfire. Also, these parameters cannot be based on expecting truthfulness or abstinence. They have to be based on something else, giving her reasonable guidelines within which to learn to take responsibility for herself. Its a complicated situation late, international, cross racial adoption, early trauma,etc. So please, no preaching. I would very much appreciate just seasoned experience and practical advice.
Quite agree no preaching - if you believe your kid to be sexually active - and if it agrees with religious beliefs - I advise putting her on the pill. I am only speaking from experience my daughter, found herself pregnant at 14 and although it brought us closer together emotionally, it was not a pleasant experience.
She is now 18, more mature and a fabulous person, looking back she says I was just a kid - what did I know that something like that would happen to me. Good luck with your daughter. I have a 16 year old daughter, though she is pretty easy, but I was a troubled 16 year old once and I have also transracially adopted a child with challenges.
I will speak from my experience as a troubled teen. The most important thing you can do and obviously already are is to be involved, and concerned. She needs to prove to you and herself that what you think, is of no concern to her - but it is a ruse - it matters more than she can accept or let on.
If you are not condemning and sounds like you are not but instead acknowledge the fact that this is ultimately a choice she must make about her own body, she will be more able to hear the things that you want to say about the situation. That does not mean, that if you think she is too young that you need to hide that opinion, but present it in a way that acknowledges her ability to make different decisions, and make sure it conveys your concerns about the effects her choices may have on her rather than an issue of right or wrong.
When adults approached me in this way when I was a teen, they made the most impact. As for the rules themselves, I think that the rules we set for teenagers are a safety net, not a protective coating, the kids can get around them if they are determined.
You are obviously aware that a teen who is acting out like this will rebel against very restrictive rules, but that still leaves you room to maneuver. The task of a teenager is to become an adult, when a teen is troubled it is imperative that they learn that the responsibility for their actions is theirs alone. It is a hard concept for teens anyone? I guess that is what I would most emphasize: PS - Alanon might be supportive for you as the parent, even if she is not using any substances, the issues are close enough.
So I must ask first: What is it that you hope to accomplish with your rules? It's unclear to me what your goals are, and this is the first step in setting up guidelines or procedures of any sort. It sounds from your message as if you are conflicted with regard to your goal.
If you could, you might want to have a goal of get teen to stop having sex. But you seem equally convinced that this is not achievable. One possible starting place to think about your goals might be: Have teen and parents be both happy and safe. Then you can identify the sub-parts of this goal that will contribute to this.
For instance, as you mentioned, garnering cooperation from another parent might be one route though it hasn't worked so far. Getting appropriate health care for the teen might be another--taking her to the Planned Parenthood, or your physician, and getting her a complete checkup including STD screening, and good solid information on both pregnancy prevention and STDs, with access to appropriate condoms required in this day and age and possibly also hormonal protection as well pill, Depo-Provera, whatever.
Dragging her to this would not help, but having her understand that you are in partnership with her to ensure her safety as well as your peace of mind probably will. It's a business book called The Goal, by Eliyahu? It is a novel about manufacturing processes. And more strangely, it's very readable--even enjoyable! The reason I think that it's useful in this case is that it talks about identifying what your goal is, and how to figure out where your bottlenecks are in the process.
Even better is the second book, called It's Not Luck. In that one, they set out some really powerful thinking processes that can help you identify a conflict, and see where seemingly irreconcilable differences can be shifted, if you can identify incorrect assumptions. The two together are actually pretty amazing, and there are several occasions when the examples used are from the protagonist's family life, so it's even clear how to apply it outside of the business world.
The process is very powerful, and my husband and I are planning to incorporate it into our personal and relationship coaching tools. Feel free to e-mail me individually, if you wish.
I have much more specific advice to offer, if you want it. And I assure you, it was not wonderful a few years ago, so it's not like we just have some miraculous kid, or are some unachievably enlightened parents ourselves! Challenging, but highly worth it. Dawn I want to refer you and any other parents to a wonderful resource for any kind of parenting issues: I speak from my own experience as a teen who was sexually active at 14 and avoided getting pregnant but did NOT avoid sexually traumatic and exploitive situations invariably by older adults and not my peers.
First to the extent possible make sure that your daughter uses the pill or another highly effective form of birth control. Encourage her and her regular boyfriend if she has one to go as a couple to Planned Parenthood for an information session; in any case, make sure that someone other than you ensures that she is very well informed about birth control and STDs and gets some coaching on the latest ways to persuade partners to use a condom. Second, help her to understand deeply that she alone can decide if she is consenting in consensual safe sex.
Being pressured into having sex when she doesn't want to have sex attacks a girl's core self esteem and can lead to other problems with alcohol, drugs, self-cutting, etc. Let her know how very important it is to ask herself how SHE feels and if SHE is ready to have sex with this particular person at this particular moment.
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She needs to know that although having genuinely consensual safe sex can be a joyful experience, she may need help to handle the feelings that come up because sex is a radical form of intimacy. Sex is powerful stuff. Who can she talk to about how it really feels?
If she is driving her own car, encourage her to come home at a reasonable hour and to routinely tell her friends that she will be grounded forever if she doesn't make the curfew. This will make it a little easier for her to get out of situations where she is in over her head.
Most important is to encourage her to LOVE herself, to exercise her power to take care of her core self, which is indistinguishable from her body, with confidence and joy. Just want to say thanks to the people who responded to my question about teen dating. Your responses were a help and a support. I have a 12 yr old 7th grade boy who has been getting calls from different girls to go out with him often 8th graders.
Usually it's a girl calling for a friend who wants to go out with him.
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But now reality hits: Evidently she likes him,too and they've shared their feelings with one another. They see each other only at school. She has let her friends know that she wants to go out with him and they in turn have told him.
Parents with older kids: I want my kids to be open and honest with me and not sneak around if I'm too strict. When I was growing up I snuck out on dates by saying I was going to a friends house. I don't want that with my own kids.
If your kids did go steady, how did they handle breaking up? I know a lot depends more on maturity level than on age, but have any of you come up with any rules of thumb methods?
Here I am supposedly guiding my son and I'm just as confused as he is. He has definitely been feeling pressure with these phone calls. This much I've learned: I wish the phone calls would stop! How does a kid say No and not sound like a nerd. If a kid says yes, just what is he getting into? Any insight would be greatly appreciated. My daughter graduated from 8th grade in June. There was lots of talk among the girls about going out with so and so.
This term means going steady, not actually going on a date, however they may want to go on dates while going out.
I have told my daughter that she can go on dates when she is 16 or Meanwhile, they have gone on group dates; this does not imply that physical closeness is out the window. Lots can happen on a group date.
Because of the media hype of sexuality especially on TV these kids are under a great deal of peer pressure to be grown up and cool. Not only are kids' hormones running wild at this age, but TV programming implies that sex is constantly on every adult's mind, and is the primary component of humor.
I find this portrayal skewed, to put it mildly.
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Times are different now. Girls do call boys and I can appreciate your dislike of this practice. As an alternative to the overemphasis on this, I suggest supporting involvement in sports for girls and boys and helping them to develop and get involved in things they have a strong interest in.
For instance, the terms, like going steady have a different meaning than they used to. That book might be useful to the parent. Asking other parents of kids in this age group in this region is a great idea! I'm eagerly awaiting the relpys that are generated, being the mother of an eleven year old who is clearly gearing up for the complexities of the middle school social world. It's fascinating to watch as the posters of The backstreat boys and others begin to cover her bedroom walls, a swirl of peoples faces wherever you look.